MP confirms he will vote against gay marriage

By Ross Findon

Tuesday, February 5, 2013

 

UPDATED 20:13

ISLE of Wight MP Andrew Turner has confirmed he will vote against the introduction of gay marriage today (Tuesday).

He is expected to be among more than 100 Conservative MPs who will not support the bill, despite its backing from senior Tories including prime minister David Cameron.

Mr Turner defended the decision, claiming the majority of people that had contacted him, were against the idea of same sex marriage.

Following speculation yesterday that he would vote against the bill, he said today (Tuesday): "I will vote against the introduction of gay marriage tonight as I believe that marriage should remain between a man and a woman.

"I know some people will welcome my stance whilst others will be disappointed.

"Many Islanders who feel strongly about this on both sides have contacted me; they are overwhelmingly against the idea of gay marriage.

"This vote is on a matter of conscience, but the following issues are among those of concern to me.

"Any such fundamental change should have the explicit consent of the British people. No parties’ election manifesto, nor the coalition agreement said this would be introduced.

"The Government carried out a public consultation with over 228,000 responses, and claimed a 'narrow’ margin of support; however many of those responses were anonymous and they came from across the world. A petition against gay marriage signed by over 500,000 people, all with names and addresses was ignored.

"There is absolutely no mandate to introduce this legislation and I believe Parliament should be concentrating on more pressing issues.

"I also believe that churches may be forced to undertake gay marriage ceremonies through challenges on human rights grounds.

"Soothing words from ministers do not give legal protections. For instance our law is quite clear that prisoners are not entitled to vote and that is the settled view of Parliament — however the UK has an obligation to enforce judgements of the European Court of Human Rights and they say our position must change.

"That is currently unresolved.

"It has been argued that gay marriage is about equality, yet it is not proposed to extend civil partnerships to heterosexual couples. There would also remain significant differences in 'marriage’ between homosexual and heterosexual couples.

"For example existing legal definitions of consummation and adultery would not apply to homosexual couples. Simply bringing in a new law cannot make something that is different the same and a great deal of existing legislation would need to be amended, that could be a legal minefield.

"If this bill is passed in the commons tonight the legislation will still have to pass through the House of Lords. In the meantime, in case the legislation is passed, I am working with like-minded colleagues to protect the rights of those who have religious or principled convictions against gay marriage; for instance I am co-sponsoring a bill which would amend the Equalities Act to give protection to those who work in the public services such as teachers and registrars."

Mr Turner's claims that the issue was not raised in a manifesto have been rejected by Howard Hardiman, who was among those who wrote to Mr Turner urging him to support the bill.

He highlighted that Conservatives had included a commitment to consider a change in the law in the 2010 Equalities Manifesto, written by the now home secretary Theresa May.

In a letter to Mr Turner ahead of today's vote he said: "I implore you to reconsider your opposition to the rights of the population of England being equal.

"I do not want to see young gay and trans people growing up feeling that their lives are worth less than those of their families and peers. I do not want to see loving couples treated as less valued or valid than other couples.

"I do not want to see a society that treats its own people as having different tiers of rights depending on who they fall in love with.

"I do not want to live in a society where the church that represents the people of this country is legally protected in discriminating against the people it is meant to provide spiritual guidance to."

*The Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Bill was passed by 400 votes to 175 following tonight's vote in the House of Commons.

Reporter: ross.findon@iwcp.co.uk

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by geoffrey clynch

6th February 2013, at 14:54:49

the same lunatics who try to give you Gay marriage, according to the Daily Mirror want to TAX the AIR you breath, do you still trust them

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by geoffrey clynch

6th February 2013, at 12:31:18

James, i agree with you, this must be stopped, but it wont unless democracy is allowed to work, and like this debate on this article, ALL the people are allowed to vote in a referendum, and not allow it to be decided by the minority of lunatic MPS, the people should decide not them

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by James McAdder

6th February 2013, at 12:20:47

If the frothy-mouth brigade really want some government legislation to protest about, I suggest you look at Theresa May's Internet surveillance proposals. It is going to cost £1.8 billion, will record all of your online activities, yet will be trivially simple for the supposed targets of this "snoopers charter" (terrorists, organised criminals, etc) to avoid or circumvent.

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by Matthew Hampshire

6th February 2013, at 11:59:09

Whatever happened to 'live and let live'? The commitment of love between two people through marriage is something to be celebrated. I'm proud to be part of a country that is moving forwards on these issues.

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by Pete Martin

6th February 2013, at 11:43:43

ooops.. I ment disgust not discuss

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by geoffrey clynch

6th February 2013, at 11:16:24

Though i dont expect any different, still, i dont think you all should start your gloating untill after it has gone through the house of lords

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by David Blackford

6th February 2013, at 09:28:26

Good cartoon on the front page todays' Daily Telegraph

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by James McAdder

6th February 2013, at 07:56:27

Well, the right decision was made, common sense prevails. I suppose the Daily Mail reading mouth-breathers will be frothing, but, then, when aren't they?

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by Kevin Barclay-Jay

6th February 2013, at 02:22:37

James McComb confuses political correctness with equality and his flawed opinion...he exposes his 'colours' by constantly (and incorretcly) blaming Marxists for everything he doesnt agree with and harks back to some golden age that never even existed..even refering to 'persian ladies' when it has been Iran for decades. At least he is honest and sides with that party full of eccentrics and no hopers

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by Pete Martin

6th February 2013, at 02:04:51

This is the day of equality.. you discuss me Mr Turner.... Everyone and I do mean EVERYONE is entitled to marry whoever they love.. To me it does not matter whether they are same sex or not.. its about love, commitment and wanting to be with someone for the rest of their lives. Nobody walks along the path and decides who they will fall in love with.. If two people want to get married, no matter what sexuality, so be it....

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